SOURCE UPDATE · 14 OCT 2026

8-bit 27B and 128K Flash-Next.

Four monitored conversations pointed to newly uploaded oMLX result pages. We checked each individual page and added 14 records from 13 October GMT, including one separate four-stream device total. These are community-reported measurements, not independent reruns. All are configured context buckets; exact tokenized prompts and generation starting depths were not published.

ULTRA 80C · FLASH-NEXT Q4 · 4K4,803 / 116.9PP / single-stream TG tok/s · MTP off
ULTRA 80C · 27B 8-BIT · 4K1,603 / 32.3PP / single-stream TG tok/s
ULTRA 64C · FLASH-NEXT Q8 · 128K4,058 / 82.9PP / single-stream TG tok/s · MTP on

Ultra 80-core: two different recipes

The Flash-Next-oQ4e 4K result on M5 Ultra 80-core/256GB reports PP 4,803 and single-stream TG 116.9 tok/s, with 99.7GB peak memory. Despite mtp in its checkpoint name, the original configuration says mtp_enabled=false; DFlash, SpecPrefill and TurboQuant KV are off too. The separate Qwen3.8-27B 8-bit 1K and 4K results report PP/TG 1,110/32.5 and 1,603/32.3. Their four-stream batching result totals 112.6 TG tok/s across the device, not per stream; its per-request contexts are unknown. Do not pair that batch TG with the 4K single-stream PP as one workload.

Ultra 64-core: Q5 and Q8 at configured 64K and 128K

Recipe64K PP / TG128K PP / TGPeak memory
Flash-Next Q53,336 / 105.43,541 / 93.390.6 / 93.9GB
Flash-Next Q83,894 / 95.24,058 / 82.9133.4 / 137.6GB

Both M5 Ultra 64-core/256GB recipes use oMLX 0.7.1.dev1, Lightning MTP depth 3, TurboQuant KV 4-bit and A8. DFlash and SpecPrefill are off. Different quantizations, memory use and unknown exact prompts mean these rows do not isolate a single causal speed change.

Other Mac results and an AI-summary correction

M5 Max 40-core/48GB Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B 1K, 4K, 8K and 16K report TG 38.2, 37.4, 39.7 and 32.5 tok/s, respectively. Another Max 40-core/128GB Flash-Next-REAP-288 recipe reports 1K PP/TG 1,985/46.1 and 4K 2,915/51.2. In those REAP source configurations, VLM MTP is on with a separate BF16 draft, while SpecPrefill is off. A monitored AI summary described SpecPrefill as enabled, and called the Ultra 80-core Q4 run MTP-enabled. The original pages show otherwise. The Max rows remain measured Max comparisons, not Ultra measurements or new payback inputs.

Price references were rechecked on 14 October: Flash US$0.15/$0.47, 27B Near AI US$0.04/$1.35, 35B US$0.05/$0.70, and GLM Relace US$0.04/$0.50 per million input/output tokens. These are editable market proxies, not booked revenue. The Flash-Next license requires separate commercial Model as a Service permission.

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